Friday, November 25, 2011

How can The United States Government hold the right to grant divorce when marriage is a church affair?

Yet Church can not endorse a presidential candidate. Any lawyers interested in challenging this, I don't want a divorce my husband does, no reply needed if you think I should let him go. This is a matter of faith and I can not be swayed. How can The United States Government hold the right to grant divorce when marriage is a church affair?
The original marriage LICENSE you're required to obtain before performing the ceremony is issued by the state government. The church ceremony is just that; a ceremony. It means more to some than the license, but it's still not legally binding unless you have that marriage certificate. As such, because the state issued your original marriage certificate, they have domain over any divorce that may occur.





It's the separation of Church and State; some people don't HAVE religious ceremonies because they either have no set religion or would rather have a civil service. By removing the sovereign ability of the state over the marriage and divorce process and giving it to the church, it essentially discriminates against those who may not be religious but still want to get married.





While historically marriage WAS the particular domain of the church, times have changed so that the ceremony is still under the church's domain, and people are free to follow their own particular religious doctrine regarding marriage and divorce, but the state ultimately does have a say.





If it's a matter of faith between you and your husband, that's between YOU and YOUR HUSBAND. Other people don't need to get involved until the lawyers, and they're the ones to help you through the complicated divorce statutes (believe me, I tried reading that thing once and I never want to do it again o.O)How can The United States Government hold the right to grant divorce when marriage is a church affair?
Because in order to be legally married, you first need to get a marriage license where you live. It doesn't matter WHERE you choose to get married. You need a license first. If you get married without a license, legally you are not married.





So marriage is not just a church affair, since you can get married in a park, in your house, and the person officiating at your wedding need not be a member of the clergy. A notary public can officiate at weddings.
Faith has nothing to do with law. You can be married by a Mayor or Justice of the Peace with no ';religious'; affiliation. To get married, you must have a license issued by the State. To be divorced, you must go through the court system. The church has no say-so on either of these. It is your personal belief if you wish to remain married, but your husband can still obtain a divorce if he wishes to go through the court fight.
Because marriage is not only a religious ceremony. It is also a legal union of two people. The divorce separates the legal union, but the church can decide if they will recognize the divorce or not, and allow you to remarry. This does not mean you cannot remarry elsewhere; it means the church will not recognize the new marriage, but the government will.
Unfortunately, and sadly, marriage is recognized by individual states and therefore the benefits afforded married couples are regulated by said states. As is the case with divorce.





The Church blesses the union and the marriage is before the eyes of God. Departure from the marriage is turning his back on his Church, his beliefs, his morals.





I am sorry that your husband has ';chosen'; to leave the Church (as mine did) and to leave your marriage. Know that this mom in Michigan is praying for you and for him to come to his senses.
All the other answers hit it on point - the legal union is licensed by the state (or government) whereas the religious union is blessed as it were, by the church. In all states, but New York and one other I believe, you or your spouse have an absolute right to a divorce - that's why they call them ';no-fault'; states. In New York, if one spouse doesn't want a divorce, the spouse seeking the divorce, must prove to a judge that the other party broke their marriage vows. It can be very ugly and almost always very expensive.
well, for starters it is a matter for the state government, not the US government since each state sets their own marriage/divorce laws.





As for your personal situation, do you have a legal marriage license through the state? if so, then the state should have the right to set the terms for divorce. If you are married and recognized as married by your church, but you never got a legal marriage through the state government, then it would be an issue for the church and the church alone.
They still have to have a marriage license issued to them by the state. Whether or not they have it solemnized by a church is up to them. I think the way we should handle it is EVERYBODY, heterosexual or homosexual, can get a license, but marriage is a religious ceremony, so if they go to a church to have it proclaimed a marriage, more power to them. If not, it's still recognized by the state. It's based on something I read once about the separation of church and state.
Marriage is a ceremony in the church but it always must be licensed by the state or the marriage means nothing.





As far as the divorce goes I need more information.





Church can endorse a presidential candidate but if they do they lose their tax exempt status that is given to them by the government.



Not Everyone holds a holy ceremony when they get married


Its the couple's personal choice whether they get married in a church


but the government needs to recognize you as married in order to do certain things


Certain things Gay-Rights people are fighting for
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA





you honestly think that marriage is a church affair?????????





and church cannot endorse a presidential candidate because we live in a free and SECULAR country....if you want religion mixed with your government move to Saudi Arabia






The Ceremony is in Church, but your licensed by the state to be married



divorce is a matter of faith I am with you friend

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